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    One Pair Hand facing a lot of aggression from ABhishek Goindi in 50k Highroller Event

    Blind Levels are 200/400 with a 50 ante, I have around 21k in chips, while Goindi has around 13,000 in chips.

    I make it 800 from the CO with A9o and Goindi flatcalls from the Big Blind.

    The Flop: AT4 rainbow, Goindi Checks, I c-bet 1100 and he raises to 2400. I flat call.

    The Turn: K, Goindi leads out for 3300, I call.

    River: J, Goindi insta-shoves for 7500...Me:?

    Would appreciate any comments on earlier streets as well as what you would do on the river.

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    earlier streets:
    Min raise on flop to 4800... would be better..which can give more info about his strength of hand on flop...
    once u r flat calling on flop..u r loosing ur lead....even if u call on flop...shove on turn..no point in giving him free cards....

    what will i do on the river :
    looks like bluff to me..will call here on river... no point in betting with a made hand(QJ) against strong player like u...

    lets c what other player have to say here..
    in the poker game of life, women are the rake

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    Quote Originally Posted by richestuser View Post
    earlier streets:
    Min raise on flop to 4800... would be better..which can give more info about his strength of hand on flop...
    once u r flat calling on flop..u r loosing ur lead....even if u call on flop...shove on turn..no point in giving him free cards....
    Agreed. If u 4 bet him to 4800, you know whether he has an ace or not, and you could think about folding.

    Quote Originally Posted by richestuser View Post
    earlier streets:
    what will i do on the river :
    looks like bluff to me..will call here on river... no point in betting with a made hand(QJ) against strong player like u...

    lets c what other player have to say here..
    Having played against Goindi, I dont think he is bluffing here, but hey, he may play differently against you, so a bluff cant be entirely ruled out. I d strongly put him on AQ/AK/AT/AJ. He knows you have an ace at this point, he is shoving half the pot on the river, I think he is shoving with a better hand. I would fold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashutoshnaik View Post



    Having played against Goindi, I dont think he is bluffing here, but hey, he may play differently against you, so a bluff cant be entirely ruled out. I d strongly put him on AQ/AK/AT/AJ. He knows you have an ace at this point, he is shoving half the pot on the river, I think he is shoving with a better hand. I would fold.
    He is not having an ACE...that is 95% sure...if he had AQ/AK/AT/AJ...dont u think he would have played it differently pre flop?(untill he decides to slow play)..... on flop he is behind suicidespree.... he is in BB and with stack of 13K nobody will mind playing any 2 cards for 400 more chips..don't give him much of credit preflop....if he has a hand on river it must be some kind of weak Queen.....other wise he is bluffing...anyhow tough spot for A9...
    in the poker game of life, women are the rake

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    I am thinking you called his raise to your c-bet to re-evaluate on the turn. When he leads out on the turn, I would probably give up.

    On the turn, I would probably put his range on Ace-broadway kicker, two pair (AT, A4) or a set (44, TT), the very small probability of QJ/KQ (raise on the flop with a gutshot oop?) and the very minutest possibility of complete air. Villain's bet on the turn puts 50% of his stack in. River shove obviously coming up (Note the insta-shove). Even if he is bluffing on the river, could he also be bluffing with the best hand (2 pair/set)? I have no idea on how Goindi plays (have heard him describe a few hands in a discussion), and have played with him only once at very shallow stacks.

    A side Question from Villain's perspective: What would one do in Goindi's place if we have a set of TT? Do we check call the river (since we are way ahead/way behind) or just jam (since 50% of our stack is in).

    Anyways, I would fold the turn. If call on turn, fold river.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuicideSpree View Post
    Blind Levels are 200/400 with a 50 ante, I have around 21k in chips, while Goindi has around 13,000 in chips.

    I make it 800 from the CO with A9o and Goindi flatcalls from the Big Blind.

    The Flop: AT4 rainbow, Goindi Checks, I c-bet 1100 and he raises to 2400. I flat call.

    The Turn: K, Goindi leads out for 3300, I call.

    River: J, Goindi insta-shoves for 7500...Me:?

    Would appreciate any comments on earlier streets as well as what you would do on the river.
    readless, i think preflop TT would surely 3 bet, flop c-bet looks fine, i have no idea about villain's ranges/tendencies (does he c-r weak draws oop) but without reads and assuming he is a strong player his value range on the flop looks really narrow, reads are therefore important here, readless assuimg strong player i might sigh peel flop but that turn card is really bad for our range but extremely good for his range, i fold turn ..

    as played in vaccum readless i fold river as we only beat a stone-cold bluff
    Last edited by rentdollarinplay; 05-14-2012 at 11:39 PM.

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    4 betting to 4800 is a really bad option. Goindi is repping a monster hand, and re-raising here will only make him fold worse hands, get it in with better ones, and even worse, possibly re-bluff us and make us fold the best hand. I have no intention of playing A9 like a bluff. If he is bluffing I want to let him continue to do so.

    On the flop he is repping exactly 44 and possibly AT, that's a very thin range and I just don't believe he's gonna have such strong hands too often. He doesn't have AQ or AK and i really doubt he would play AJ or even a worse suited ace in this way. Therefore i think he he has lots of bluffs in his range.

    On the turn he continues the aggression. The turn card is good for his range, but now he's repping only his original 44/AT range + now the bluffs with QJ that have suddenly become the nut straight. If he hit a King on the turn, he would probably slow down, since he now has showdown value, so I kind of discount the possibility KJ, KQ etc from his range. At this point his range is very narrow value hands, (if he is bluffing he could have potentially anything).

    On the river when he shoves, I really considered folding, but the J doesn't actually change very much. He could be bluffing with some random Hand like Q9,Q8 etc and suddenly got there, but if he has these hands, he also has tons of bluffs which missed completely. If he gets to the river with a bluff, he is going to shove 100% of his bluffs on such a scary board, and its not so certain he would jam with some of the hands which were in his value range earlier. On the whole, the line he has taken doesn't make any sense (he HAS to have been bluffing at some point in this hand, given the way he's played this). Some of his bluffs are now the nuts, but not so many. I was getting very good odds on top of that.

    As a result I called. Goindi announced "9 high" and mucked when i showed my hand.

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    well I guess the result was positive and it looks like a great call from you (Congrats actually :-).. but I am still not convinced that we can profitably call on turn and river like you did (it was profitable here of course).. Can you give your thoughts on the side question that I asked Prabhat?

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    If u call turn, you just have to call this river. I would fold turn most of the times though.

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    nh Prabhat..good read, gutsy call

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